Friday, March 29, 2019

Chickenpox/Shingles exposure guide




Chickenpox/Shingles exposure guide

Zoster is one of the eight herpes viruses known to infect humans. The primary illness is varicella zoster, more commonly referred to as chickenpox. After the course of the chickenpox illness, the virus goes dormant in the nerves. It can resurface years later as Herpes Zoster, more familiarly known as shingles.

While there have been some exposures at various schools, I haven’t had an actual case of chickenpox among my patients for over a year. These days I get way more calls about shingles than I do about actual chickenpox. Of course it isn’t my little patients with the illness. Usually it is a relative who has been diagnosed with shingles and the parents are wondering if it is safe to visit or if their child has been exposed. This post will give you the scoop about both Shingles and Chickenpox including exposure information.
Don’t try to read this when you are sleep deprived, it might make your head spin.

When the Varivax (chickenpox vaccine) came out in 1995, it took us a few years before we started giving it widely. We did an about face one season when we had hordes of chickenpox patients who were absolutely miserable. There didn't seem to be a sensible answer as to why we shouldn't simply give the shot to prevent it. The answer that "we had them and survived" seemed a little weak. While it is true that most chicken pox sufferers simply have a very unhappy week, complications do occur. Even the moderate cases can have painful lesions in the genitals and mouth. Some folks get them in the eyes and need round the clock eye drops. Some of the lesions end up leaving scars. At the very least you have a sleepless, itchy week and will need to take time off of work. One of the bigger concerns about the disease is the potential for future shingles. Here in California, as of July 2019, if you are going to be in the school system, 2 doses are now required before getting into kindergarten.

One of the best things about getting the chickenpox vaccine and avoiding the misery is the fact that studies indicate that future occurrence of shingles may be less likely in a patient who had the Varivax than someone who had the actual chicken pox. In all honesty that question probably won't be answered for another 40 years or so, when the first wave of kids who got the vaccine become middle aged. Keep your fingers crossed. At the very least, in our office, almost all of our patients are vaccinated and cases of shingles are exceedingly rare.

Infants are thought to have some maternal protection to the chickenpox virus that starts to wane when they are about 7 months. The protection is probably gone by a year. The first dose of the shot is usually given between 12-15 months. Unlike the MMR, Varivax is not recommended before the age of a year even if traveling or your child has been exposed. A booster is given between 4-6 years. For children playing catch up who are getting the Varivax for the first time, the minimum interval between doses for children 7-12 is 3 months. For kids who are over 13 the minimum spacing between the 2 doses is only 4 weeks.
If you are a parent who isn’t sure if you have had them as a child, there is a blood test that can determine if you are immune or not.

Kids are contagious a day or two before they get any lesions. They may have a low grade fever and be cranky. It is very likely that they are out and about in school, daycare or activities during this period spreading this virus to anyone who is not immune. It is what it is. No reasonable person expects you to keep your child home every time they are cranky. They remain contagious until all of the lesions have crusted over. That usually takes about a week. Most kids these days are vaccinated so there is good herd immunity working in our favor.
So there you were in the park, playing with patient X. You get an apologetic call the next day from patient X's parent that their child seems to have come down with chickenpox. If the kids were having close interaction with each other, it is likely that your child was indeed exposed. The chickenpox virus is very contagious. It is airborne and can live on some surfaces. If your child is vaccinated or already had the illness, you likely don't need to worry too much. The vaccine is about 85% effective, however the CDC bumps that up to 98% after the second dose. The rare vaccine failures tend to get much lighter cases. If your child in not immune you are now on alert.

From the first moment of exposure, the incubation period is usually 2 weeks but can range from 10-21 days. If 3 weeks go by with no sign of anything you are likely in the clear. Just because your child has been exposed is not a reason for you to keep them home from school or daycare and for you to miss work. They may or may not catch it. Someone who is immune is not likely to carry it.

If your child has been exposed, be on the lookout for any signs that your they might be succumbing. The words "I want to go take a nap now" may be a red flag. If they get a fever you should probably issue a warning to any friends or caregivers as you wait to see if spots appear. If your child does come down with it they are now patient X and were likely contagious a day or so before the first sign of a rash.

The chicken pox rash is pretty distinctive. Once the chickenpox rash appears, it goes through three phases:

  • Raised pink or red bumps (papules), which break out over several days
  • Small fluid-filled blisters (vesicles), which form in about one day and then break and leak
  • Crusts and scabs, which cover the broken blisters and take several more days to heal.

New bumps continue to appear for several days, so you may have all three stages of the rash — bumps, blisters and scabbed lesions — at the same time. They usually start on the trunk but then spread. When they scab over they are very itchy.


Be aware if you are traveling out of the country that there are many places in the world where vaccination for chickenpox is NOT routine. Dr Schwanke is frustrated that we are not supposed to give an early shot for travelers. Most of the cases we see now a days are folks that were exposed while visiting family abroad.

As I mentioned earlier, after you recover from chickenpox, the virus can enter your nervous system and lie dormant for years. Eventually, it may reactivate and travel along nerve pathways to your skin - producing shingles. It is most common in folks when they are older adults. It may be stress related. One easy diagnostic trick is that the blistery and usually painful rash will usually not cross the midline of the body. About 10-20% of folks who had the chickenpox will end up with shingles.

Shingles can be spread only if someone comes into direct contact with the lesion. A healthy person who has immunity to chickenpox is generally not considered to be at risk. Someone with a compromised immune system or someone who has never had the chickenpox needs to be a little more cautious. If infected, they would catch chickenpox, not shingles, from the infected person. Over the years we have had a couple of patients who came down with cases of chickenpox that we traced back to a shingles exposure, but again, that is most unusual. It is NOT airborne. If the shingles patient keeps the lesions covered you can still go visit grandma.

For those of you over the age of 50 there is a new shingles vaccine that looks quite promising. It packs a punch. This is a 2 shot series. Most people complain of a sore arm and feeling fluish (hit by a truck) That is still better than getting the shingles, as most people who have ever had it will tell you.

Friday, March 1, 2019

Urgent Care options 2019

Urgent Care Options 2019

Murphy's Law generally seems to make certain that the fever spikes, or the vomiting starts, right at 5:01 pm when the average doctor's office turns their phones off. It is important to be familiar with your after hours/urgent care options. At the bottom of this post I have some blog links that may help you decide if you need to be seen or not. I put the dosage chart link down there as well since that is a common question that many folks have after hours.
Please try to keep track of any refill needs. We are happy to help with that during routine business hours.

Waiting until you or your child is ill is not the best time to start learning about what choices exist in your area. Does your insurance plan have a preferred option that won’t cost as much? Are there after hours advice nurses available? Where is the closest emergency room? Is it staffed with pediatricians? If you are traveling, plan ahead and figure out local options for care before the trip.

For Noe Valley Pediatrics patients who need help after hours, we ask you to start with the pediatric after hours clinic/triage nurse line:415-387-9293

If the nurse is NOT able to help, you will be directed to our answering service where the Noe Valley Pediatrics physician who is on call that night will be paged. If your child needs a prescription, it is unlikely that the on call doctor will be able to prescribe without an evaluation. The answering service number is 415-753-4697

Here in the San Francisco Bay Area we are lucky to have very good options for after hours care.


The UCSF Benioff Children’s Physicians Pediatric After Hours Clinics and Advice Service:

In San Francisco
3490 California Street, Suite #200                         
415-387-9293

In Berkeley
3000 Colby St Suite 301 (New Location 7/2017)
510-486-8344  

Patients are seen by appointment:

  • Monday through Friday 6:00 pm - 9:30 pm, (phones open at 5:00pm for appointments)
  • Saturday, Sunday and holidays 8:30 am -9:30 pm (phones open at 7:30 am)

Weeknight pediatricians are made up of participating private pediatricians, including several of our doctors who work an occasional shift in the clinic there. Weekend doctors are fully trained and board certified pediatricians. The advice nurse triage team is available from 5 pm through the night, even after the clinic is closed. The availability of the triage nurse makes this our number one choice.

The Pediatrics After Hours Care at St Luke’s Hospital is affiliated with Sutter/ CPMC and is located at 1580 Valencia Street, 7th Floor #701 This clinic has been open for several years now:


It is now open 7 days a week.
  • Monday-Friday 5:00pm-10:00pm
  • Saturday-Sunday 8:30am-10:00pm

Phone: 866-961-8588

This service does not currently have an advice nurse team, but the person answering the phone can help do some basic triage when making the appointment and help redirect you to an emergency room if that seems necessary. This clinic has some advantages besides the convenient location. They start the scheduling process as early as 2 pm, which may make it easier to make a plan if we are already solidly booked here in our office and can’t get you in to see us that same day. They also offer weekend weight and bilirubin checks for our newborns. As a bonus, there is a special waiting area so that the healthy newborns aren’t exposed to the other sick kids.

The two options listed above are the only urgent care facilities with which our office has a close relationship. When things are going as they should, both of the above after hours options send a report to the primary doctor's office. In our office, the nurse team reviews the reports and follows up to see how you are doing to maintain a sense of continuity.

I am listing the others below as a convenience.

If you are not in San Francisco, on the Peninsula you have several good options:

http://www.afterhourpeds.net/ is a pediatric urgent care facility. There is no appointment needed.
210 Baldwin Ave in San Mateo.
Telephone 650-579-6581

The Palo Alto Medical Foundation has several pediatric urgent care options:


They have a choice of appointment or drop in. The website gives info about the various locations and current wait times.

There are plenty of general urgent care places popping up all over the place as well. They are not usually staffed with pediatricians. For a teen, this is not much of an issue, but for my younger kids, I would try to stick with one of the pediatric after hours clinics.
Children are not just little adults. Some general practitioners are not versed in the treatment modalities of the pediatrics patient.

If you do end up at another urgent care, please ask them to send over a report to your primary pediatrician so that they can stay in the loop. If you are Noe Valley Pediatrics patient our fax number is 415-826-1308

EMERGENCY ROOMS

In a true emergency of course call 911. If it is less urgent, but you are certain that you child needs immediate medical attention we are lucky to have excellent options here in SF. When given the choice I will generally opt for one of the true pediatric emergency rooms. You are not competing for care with the elderly heart attack and stroke victims that may be populating the waiting room and getting ranked higher on the triage scale. You will also be assured of seeing a pediatrician and having appropriate pediatric equipment. If an admission is needed, my preference would be either CPMC at the new Van Ness campus or UCSF Mission Bay. There also won’t be any transport needed if you are already at one of those ERs. I think it is worth the extra ten minute drive across town and may save you time in the long run.

The UCSF Pediatric ER in Mission Bay is located at 1975 Fourth Street:


This emergency room has scored very high in a nationwide ranking for getting patients seen in a timely manner.

On March 3, 2019, the CPMC Pediatric Emergency Room relocated from California Street to the new Van Ness Campus in San Francisco at 1101 Van Ness Avenue


DAYTIME URGENT CARE

While we strongly prefer to have our youngest patients be seen by a pediatrician, there are ‘those days’ when our office is completely booked up early. If there is something going on that is not worthy of an emergency room visit and you don’t want to wait until the pediatric urgent care offices open, there are more and more urgent care options popping up all of the time. Many of these are conveniently located throughout the bay area. It is worth checking the prices, they can vary greatly.  Check with your insurance to make sure that the place you go is considered in network. Places that offer appointments are also a bonus so that you are not sitting around a crowded waiting room.
With any urgent care, make sure they send a report to your primary doctor’s office. If you were not seen by a pediatrician, it is always a good idea to touch base with your own doctor the next day to review the diagnosis, treatment plan and follow up needs.




Some of the common calls that folks need help with after hours are dosage questions. Here is the link to a post with that info: